Salaam (Peace) to all...
After reading Mr. Richter's article (http://www.counterpunch.org/) besmirching the character of Sen. John McCain, somewhat hoping to gain deeper insight into the reasons behind the ill-feelings of his detractors, I must say I was sorely disappointed. While I am certainly no fan of John McCain, I also am not a fan of shoddy sensationalism.
Mr. Richter's article was, at best, a sloppy attempt to malign McCain through the use of innuendo and "guilt by association", along with a list of vague, unsupported assumptions that the reader is expected, apparently, to just "swallow" as actual fact.
Examples:
"Gen. Telford Taylor, a chief U.S. prosecutor at the Nuremberg trials after World War Two, told me that he strongly supported the idea of trying the U.S. pilots captured in North Vietnam as war criminals - and that he would be proud to lead in their prosecution.
"...While he did not mention any pilot's name, then U.S. Navy Lieut. Commander John McCain who was captured a year later, would have been among the group Taylor wanted to prosecute."
Here, Mr. Richter is employing the use of an "authority" figure and his personal views to legitimize the subsequent assumption that McCain "would have been" among the group Gen. Taylor wanted to prosecute. "Would have been"??? Excuse me??? Either he was, or he wasn't. Did Mr. Richter ever bother to ASK the good General whether Sen. McCain was among those he wanted to prosecute? If not, how on earth could Mr. Richter make such an assumption? Would such an assumption hold up as "evidence" in a court of law? Hardly.
"Why would anyone have wanted to prosecute McCain and the other captured pilots? Taylor's argument was that their actions were in violation of the Geneva conventions that specifically forbid indiscriminate bombing that could cause incidental loss of civilian life or damage to civilian objects."
Here, again, is a sly "guilt-by association" tactic...promoting a conclusion that has not been logically or factually established: "Why would anyone have wanted to prosecute McCain and the other captured pilots?"
Again, Mr. Ricther has not established, definitively, that Sen. McCain deserves to be lumped together with those "other captured pilots" who, by the way, were never actually mentioned by name. Perhaps Mr. Richter's claim is actually true...but he did not established such in his presentation, which is more along the lines of fallacy than deductive reasoning.
"In one of his autobiographies McCain wrote that he was going to bomb a power station in “a heavily populated part of Hanoi” when he was shot down."
Ummm...WHICH ONE of his autobiographies? Which page? And what is the full context of the "quote" cited in the above claim? And if, as Mr. Richter claims, Sen. McCain is recorded as having participated in "23" bombing runs...why not provide statements or references to more than "ONE", supposedly mentioned in "one of his autobiographies"?
"The targets McCain and his fellow pilots actually bombed in Vietnam and his justification then or now for the actions that led to his capture, are no longer simply old news. They are part of what must be taken into account today, as voters weigh support for him or Obama to be the next President of the United States.
"This is not about the hugely unpopular war in Vietnam. It is about the character of a man who seeks to be U.S. President, who perhaps was not simply a brave warrior, but a warrior who by his own admission, bombed and was ready to bomb targets in violation of the Geneva conventions and Nuremberg principles."
Pardon me, but..."perhaps"??? The problem with "perhaps" is that it leaves equal room for the possibility of "perhaps NOT", especially in the absence of any credible supporting references.
Sadly, yet ironically, this is a clear reminder of the "Truth" of the words of Hiram Johnson (1866-1945) - a Progressive Republican senator in California -- "The first casualty, when war comes, is truth".
Apparently, this phenomena is not restricted only to military action campaigns, but also applies to political campaigns, as well. What must be the net effect on the citizens who look to their political leaders for guidance?
Little wonder that the "sky" over America....is falling.
RM
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Did Farrakhan Call Obama "The Messiah"?
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...the Best Knower.
Well, it seems the spin-doctors are at it again, distorting the truth, and telling outright lies, to try to defame Sen. Barack Obama and, in this case, the Hon. Louis Farrakhan, both.
There is a video on YouTube which shows excerpts of an address given by the Hon. Louis Farrakhan, wherein he makes some very significant observations about Sen. Barack Obama and the timing of his "phenomenal rise" in popularity among the American people during the present race for the Presidency of the United States.
Somehow, the Hon. Louis Farrakhan's words are, again, being mis-represented to suggest that he is saying Sen. Obama "is the Messiah". Whoever started this rumor is either severely challenged in terms of comprehension of speech, or is morally bankrupt.
For example, compare this article, which is being circulated by the "spin-doctors" like Rush Limbaugh, with the actual words, in context, of the Hon. Louis Farrakhan, which follow.
The Hon. Louis Farrakhan's actual words, in context:
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4432.shtml
Some people think Barack Obama should wait 10-12 years before he running for president, thinking that he would be more “seasoned” and “mature.” But America doesn’t have that long to wait, at the rate she’s going.
Barack Obama said “My time is now.” Don’t worry about his shoulders; God never lays on a soul a burden beyond its scope. Would God allow Barack to be president of a country that has been so racist; so evil in its mistreatment of Hispanics, Native Americans, Indians, Blacks? Would God do something like that? Yes, of course He would. That is to show you that the stone that the builders have rejected is becoming the headstone of the corner. This is a sign to you. It is the time of our rise. It is the time that we should take our place. The Future is All About You.
I ask that we pray for our Brother, Barack Obama. I am not asking for votes. I am asking a Nation—not just the Nation of Islam, but all people of good will—to pray for this young man. Pray for his family. Pray for his blessed wife and children, we don’t want to see another Coretta Scott King.
This man says he not only is talking about changing who sits in the White House; he is talking about changing the mindset of those that led us into the war in Iraq. Did you hear Alan Greenspan, the former head of the Federal Reserve, say that the war in Iraq is all about oil? You mean our sons and our daughters are dying and being maimed over America’s junkie spirit toward oil? Did you read that the amount of oil that is under the ground in Iraq is $30 trillion? That is why Republican Presidential candidate John McCain said, “We need to stay there about a hundred years. We need to make sure that we get this thing.”
Brothers and Sisters, Barack Obama, to me, is a herald of The Messiah.
~Insert~
herald:
[c.1276 (in Anglo-Latin), "messenger, envoy," from Anglo-Fr. heraud, from O.Fr. heraut, hiraut, perhaps from Frank. *hariwald "commander of an army," from P.Gmc. *kharjaz "army" (from PIE root *koro- "war") + *wald- "to command, rule" (see wield).]
1. (formerly) a royal or official messenger, esp. one representing a monarch in an ambassadorial capacity during wartime.
2. a person or thing that precedes or comes before; forerunner; harbinger: the returning swallows, those heralds of spring.
3. a person or thing that proclaims or announces: A good newspaper should be a herald of truth.
~End Insert~
Barack Obama is like the trumpet that alerts you that something new; something better is on the way. Do you know the kind of fear that he is evoking in those that have the mindset that sent America to war? Do you think the international bankers that control all the politicians of the world are going to allow this young man to change the mindset of those that rule who are really Satanic? What is in their hearts toward that young man?
One of the Brothers went to a shop the other day, and the Caucasian owner of the shop said, “You all do everything in your power, please, to help Barack Obama win because if he loses, all of us are lost.” Now, just think about what it took for a man to come out of his mouth like that. Barack Obama is not The Messiah for sure, but any time he gives you a sign of uniting races, ethnic groups, ideologies, religions, and makes people feel a sense of oneness, that is not necessarily Satan’s work. That is, I believe, The Work of God.
I thank Master Fard Muhammad for His coming. I thank Master Fard Muhammad for raising the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. I thank Allah (God) for sparing my life as we go through these trying times. We must clean up our lives, clean up our communities.
Young people: You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change. That is why Barack Obama has captured the youth, and he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That is a sign: When The Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And The Messiah is absolutely speaking.
-Minister Louis Farrakhan
=====================================
This latest effort to malign Sen. Obama is one more "nail" in the "coffin" in which the American media's moral integrity is soon to be buried.
Thankfully, there are those among us who will not "believe the hype".
12. WE BELIEVE that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited "Messiah" of the Christians and the "Mahdi" of the Muslims.
We believe further and lastly that Allah is God and besides HIM there is no god and He will bring about a universal government of peace wherein we all can live in peace together.
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm
"Nay, we hurl the Truth against falsehood until it knocks out its brains, and lo, it vanishes."
-Holy Qur'an
RM
Well, it seems the spin-doctors are at it again, distorting the truth, and telling outright lies, to try to defame Sen. Barack Obama and, in this case, the Hon. Louis Farrakhan, both.
There is a video on YouTube which shows excerpts of an address given by the Hon. Louis Farrakhan, wherein he makes some very significant observations about Sen. Barack Obama and the timing of his "phenomenal rise" in popularity among the American people during the present race for the Presidency of the United States.
Somehow, the Hon. Louis Farrakhan's words are, again, being mis-represented to suggest that he is saying Sen. Obama "is the Messiah". Whoever started this rumor is either severely challenged in terms of comprehension of speech, or is morally bankrupt.
For example, compare this article, which is being circulated by the "spin-doctors" like Rush Limbaugh, with the actual words, in context, of the Hon. Louis Farrakhan, which follow.
The Hon. Louis Farrakhan's actual words, in context:
http://www.finalcall.com/artman/publish/article_4432.shtml
Some people think Barack Obama should wait 10-12 years before he running for president, thinking that he would be more “seasoned” and “mature.” But America doesn’t have that long to wait, at the rate she’s going.
Barack Obama said “My time is now.” Don’t worry about his shoulders; God never lays on a soul a burden beyond its scope. Would God allow Barack to be president of a country that has been so racist; so evil in its mistreatment of Hispanics, Native Americans, Indians, Blacks? Would God do something like that? Yes, of course He would. That is to show you that the stone that the builders have rejected is becoming the headstone of the corner. This is a sign to you. It is the time of our rise. It is the time that we should take our place. The Future is All About You.
I ask that we pray for our Brother, Barack Obama. I am not asking for votes. I am asking a Nation—not just the Nation of Islam, but all people of good will—to pray for this young man. Pray for his family. Pray for his blessed wife and children, we don’t want to see another Coretta Scott King.
This man says he not only is talking about changing who sits in the White House; he is talking about changing the mindset of those that led us into the war in Iraq. Did you hear Alan Greenspan, the former head of the Federal Reserve, say that the war in Iraq is all about oil? You mean our sons and our daughters are dying and being maimed over America’s junkie spirit toward oil? Did you read that the amount of oil that is under the ground in Iraq is $30 trillion? That is why Republican Presidential candidate John McCain said, “We need to stay there about a hundred years. We need to make sure that we get this thing.”
Brothers and Sisters, Barack Obama, to me, is a herald of The Messiah.
~Insert~
herald:
[c.1276 (in Anglo-Latin), "messenger, envoy," from Anglo-Fr. heraud, from O.Fr. heraut, hiraut, perhaps from Frank. *hariwald "commander of an army," from P.Gmc. *kharjaz "army" (from PIE root *koro- "war") + *wald- "to command, rule" (see wield).]
1. (formerly) a royal or official messenger, esp. one representing a monarch in an ambassadorial capacity during wartime.
2. a person or thing that precedes or comes before; forerunner; harbinger: the returning swallows, those heralds of spring.
3. a person or thing that proclaims or announces: A good newspaper should be a herald of truth.
~End Insert~
Barack Obama is like the trumpet that alerts you that something new; something better is on the way. Do you know the kind of fear that he is evoking in those that have the mindset that sent America to war? Do you think the international bankers that control all the politicians of the world are going to allow this young man to change the mindset of those that rule who are really Satanic? What is in their hearts toward that young man?
One of the Brothers went to a shop the other day, and the Caucasian owner of the shop said, “You all do everything in your power, please, to help Barack Obama win because if he loses, all of us are lost.” Now, just think about what it took for a man to come out of his mouth like that. Barack Obama is not The Messiah for sure, but any time he gives you a sign of uniting races, ethnic groups, ideologies, religions, and makes people feel a sense of oneness, that is not necessarily Satan’s work. That is, I believe, The Work of God.
I thank Master Fard Muhammad for His coming. I thank Master Fard Muhammad for raising the Honorable Elijah Muhammad. I thank Allah (God) for sparing my life as we go through these trying times. We must clean up our lives, clean up our communities.
Young people: You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change. That is why Barack Obama has captured the youth, and he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That is a sign: When The Messiah speaks, the youth will hear. And The Messiah is absolutely speaking.
-Minister Louis Farrakhan
=====================================
This latest effort to malign Sen. Obama is one more "nail" in the "coffin" in which the American media's moral integrity is soon to be buried.
Thankfully, there are those among us who will not "believe the hype".
12. WE BELIEVE that Allah (God) appeared in the Person of Master W. Fard Muhammad, July, 1930; the long-awaited "Messiah" of the Christians and the "Mahdi" of the Muslims.
We believe further and lastly that Allah is God and besides HIM there is no god and He will bring about a universal government of peace wherein we all can live in peace together.
http://www.noi.org/muslim_program.htm
"Nay, we hurl the Truth against falsehood until it knocks out its brains, and lo, it vanishes."
-Holy Qur'an
RM
Saviour's Day 1974 - A Sign of a "New Beginning"
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1796328694313608707
In the Name of Allah, The Most Merciful, To Whom All Holy Praises is due, The Lord of the Worlds. I'm so happy to see your smiling faces out here. Now you're talking about a little man, feeling like he's a big man, that's me! Lot's of people call me a little man. I wish they'd come and see how big I am now.
All Praises is due to Allah, Who have made it possible for us to meet here this day to give honor, thanks for His coming and for His blessing. He has now come in our midst. He's with us. We don't see Him as a spook. He's no spook. He's a live man! He's a Living God!
I'm sorry that I have not asked you to sit down. You look so beautiful and I don't want you to sit down.
Brothers and Sisters, when you were Christian Believers, you used to sing that when you get to heaven, you was not gonna sit down. Well we have a great job here to do today. And I am going to say to you I thank you for receiving me with such great honor. And that you may now be seated.
...I'm going to turn the meeting over to the secretary. He has lots to tell you. And so he's going to address you and get busy and tell you what we must do - what must , now, be done after the Coming of God. I turn you over to the secretary, as I say unto you in the Name of Allah, As-Salaam-Alaikum...Just a moment. I looked at myself a little coming in by a mirror and my grandson here, he was telling me, so I hope you don't chop my head off for this mighty crown I have on...
(National Secretary speaks)
....My Beloved Brothers and Sisters, we have today a very beautiful day from Allah. To you that is visiting us, that we know and that we don't know... Some of you, we don't know you...You may make yourself known to us so you can receive your honor from us for visiting us today. We are a people that does not think that we are Big I's. We think that we are little you's...And not Big I's. We are so greatly blessed by Allah and by you visiting us that we cannot help but to be happy and proud of your presence. There may be some of you that is some great dignitary that we don't know. You are welcomed to make yourself known to us that we may be able to give you credit for what you are.
And that we want to say to you that is visiting us that probably comes from overseas...We want you to know that you are at the setting of the sun. But that sun is rising again. It's set. But she is rising again. Bringing us in a new day. The Coming of God. The Coming of Our Saviour. He's not a Spook. I want you to know that we are trying our best, since we have met face to face with God to try to remove from you that old idea that God is some Spirit that is formless. We want you to get out of that old slavery idea.
If you call God by a pronoun, "He"...you feel pretty cheap calling Him "she". You feel pretty cheap just to say "spirit"...You've got to say "He"!
I'm here to tell you that He's not a "she" nor is He some formless spirit. The Bible says on the Day of Judgment you will see God as He is. This is the Day. And I can GLADLY say that He is a He!
There is a many people who have not known God. And there is a many people that know God.
The white race knows God. But they can't represent God as you and me do. They will be giving away the power to rule. They was not to rule under the Teachings of reality of God. They was made to hide to reality of God...in order that they themselves would be worshipped.
I don't get angry with them the way that they rule and what they teach. How in the world can they teach and turn us away from the God of Reality...if they intend to rule they have got to take us away...because we've got the reality. Every time you look at the Black man, you're looking at God!
Maybe some of us will say, "Oh no! I'm no God and you're no God". Okay, get your God out and show Him to me. You can't do that. You say that God is a Spirit...Show Him to me. You can not show me your spirit God. Then you say, He's not to be seen. Well then, I don't want to see Him if he don't want to see me.
...As it is written, we worship that which we know, what. You worship that which you know not! We are not going to hold your attention to this kind of subject. We've got lots of work here to do. For 43 years, I have been teaching that GOD IS MAN! For 43 years I have been teaching that one day you will wake up to know. You will wake up and agree with me. From the looks of your numbers here today, it SEEMS that you're waking up.
There is no intelligent man will come out of the college or out of the university with his degrees in his hand and in his pocket and will agree to you that he learned that he had to worship Spooks. Because he went to colleges and universities of the land to learn the truth of who is who. He didn't go there to make a fool out of himself.
The professors and scholars over at the colleges and universities would look at you and laugh at you to tell them to go and worship something they don't know nothing about. And I don't blame them.
We are very happy. We have with us two or three great scientists over to my right here. They are great scientists visiting us.
If we had been here worshiping the space, the atmosphere, for God, they would not have taken a seat over there. So we are happy and honored to have these great scientists sitting over here to our right. We are happy to be honored by them. We are glad that they are visiting us to know that sun, the Spiritual sun, is vice-versing itself, rising from the West!
I'm not saying that I'm trying to make them look small for coming here visiting us. As we are small. We are those Lost and now Found people that the Bible's been teaching us all our lives. We are those people. God have come to raise us up to give to us a Kingdom. And the Bible says, it is His own Good Will to do so. He takest the Kingdom from whom He pleases and give it to whom He pleases. So we had no Kingdom, but He's, now, giving to us a Kingdom. This represents a Kingdom.
"Sit him down over there. Crown him. Put him on good shoes. (The Messenger laughs) Get up Brother! And recognize your Brother that was Lost and is now Found. Get up! Give Him a place at home! Come on in Brother!" Praise Be To Allah!
"He was Lost. Now he's found. He was dead, but now he's Alive. Come on in, Brother. Have a seat ,Brother. Put him on a crown....This is it!
Since the Coming of God, in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad, and teaching you and me that He had searched the earth, as it is written. Now He have found us. Now what must be done? We can not sit down. We cannot lay down. We must get up...and go to work. Praises be to Allah!
We want to thank the Chicago white people for making it possible for us to obtain the Country Club. For making it possible for us to get in such position where we can prove ourselves worthy of the position. We thank them. They have did us a great favor. I don't think that we have nothing to do but to honor and thank them for putting us in such position.
This is their house and we are here teaching the truth. They are not objecting to you teaching the truth. As we have white Muslims in America...And lots of them. We have them all over the world. And they recognize and respect you. You must recognize and respect them.
You don't disrespect people that is trying to respect you. I remember the last time that I was out to the airport. They let me and my followers get on first. Now remember their flag is still flying over America. Honor and respect the man. Because he still has his flag.
There is much that can be interchanged between them and us in that way of respect. We don't have to get up to try to make fun of them just because you have learned yourself. And now you have learned them. Just remember that they show you respect after you have learned yourself. Show them respect them too! Because when you didn't know yourself, you didn't respect self nor anyone else.
We used to disgrace ourselves and them too. Because we didn't know ourself. But now we respect ourselves and we respect them. Praise be to Allah!
If you go out there disrespecting the owner of this land...they are the owners as long as they are in power...I think you will be showing disrespect for the high honor that has been conferred on you and me by God. You have to respect everybody. And everybody will respect you.
If God give way to them to rule, Then you're honoring a ruler. As long as they are in power to rule, then respect them. This I mean from my heart. Everywhere we go, respect people and people will respect you. Don't think that you are so great now, just because God promised you the Kingdom. Wait until you get in it!
And still you must remember that a ruler may dishonor. And dishonoring people he's dishonoring himself.
My beloved brothers and sisters, God has come and He visited us. He don't mean for us to waste our time looking to see who can we make mock of. Look and try and show people, that if you will mock, disrespect , that God did not raise us up to repeat the same. We must show the world that we are a Righteous people trying to set up the characteristics in our people of righteousness.
We don't want our people acting unrighteous. Regardless to who's acting unrighteous by us, we must not do so ourselves, since we represent ourselves as being righteous people. We be righteous.
If we say there goes the devil. Then don't try and practice after him if you say your are righteous. Show the devil that you are a righteous person. Because he's watching you for such. Since you say, now, you are righteous, then prove it. And if you say he's not righteous, he will say, he was not his Maker. That'll stop YOUR mouth.
He did not make himself. It was our kind that made him. So if you want to make mock of that which you have made, he could easily tell you that "I am not responsible for my make, you made me, yourself...your kind."
Let us remember these words. There is lots that we must learn to do, to show forth to the world who we are. We are not raised up to sit around and make mock of people. No! We are raised up to show the world what righteousness looks like. And how it feels to be righteous. Clearing a man of his past and putting him on the right road, This is a wonderful thing!
He said to Israel, "I am your God!" Israel said, "I bear witness". (The Messenger laughs)
Now, He says to you and I, "Remember my favor that I've bestowed upon you. Take a Lesson from Me, that if I bestowed upon Israel those great blessings, what you think I'm gonna do for you? If I blessed Israel to bring her out of the bondage of Pharoah, what you think I'm gonna do for you? I found Israel in the worst house of the wilderness, and I found you in the worst house...and you are my own."
So if God said this, and He have said it, that we belong to Him...All Praise is due to Allah!
He called Israel his son. He said, "Out of Egypt, I have called my son...I have said to Israel, that if they obey me, I will lead them in a land that I will give to them, on the condition that they believe, and obey." But they didn't obey. So, His promise can't be fulfilled, because, that "...you don't give me a chance. I want to fulfill my promise, Israel...but you won't let me fulfill it. Who brought you in this place, Israel? Who fed you, Israel, where there was no bread? I only want to show to you, Israel, that I am God."
So, the same thing, Brothers and Sisters have come to us. I want to show you, O my Lost and Found, that He that found you and me, is God! He owns us! And He wants to do for you that which will stand forever. The earth belongs to you. It didn't belong to Israel. But, now, you're the true owners. Think over that. Israel paved the way for you. Come on. I want to give it back to you.
The Lost and Found..Been lost from his Brothers for a long time. Now, he's found. And we must bring him, again, sit him down in the midst of his brother and tell him, "This is your home." So today, you are on your way to become the Owner and the Ruler of the earth.
Once you lay hold to that handle that will not break off, you must keep it. You don't have to worry about the people coming to you, they all will come to you. As the Bible teaches you, "Look and see, they all come to Thee".
You are a very beautiful people that have been robbed and spoiled. But as you come into Islam, Allah will gradually restore your beauty appearance. You will become a beautiful Nation as never before lived on the earth. If you don't like any ugly part about you, He says He will cause you to grow into a new growth.
"What must be done? " We have God with us! We have Him as our Guide. We don't have to stand around here and ask the question, "What must be done?" Get up and let's go and do something!
We are trying to do something with whatever the white folks will let us have. We are trying to do something with it to make them feel that they didn't give it over to a bunch of lazy fellows that want to sit down and turn our face back to them, begging them to carry us right on.
When you have been given a chance to go for self, GO FOR SELF!
I say that the Black man of North America have nobody to blame but himself. If he respects himself and do for himself, his once slave-master will come and respect him and help him to do something for self.
You can not say they don't help you to do something for self. They are helping US to go for OURselves. Who would want to help an old horse that don't want to do anything but lay down in the loft. ...Really disgusting. Rouse him up and tell him, "Hey, get up! If you can't pull the tractor, pull the plow."
I don't believe in us, now in this modern time, laying down on the white man, looking for him to give us something to go for. He gave you something when he gave you freedom. That's all you wanted. To be free to do something for self. Well, you've got that. Don't, now, lay down around his doorstep, asking him to help you. Go help yourself. Well, that's right. He's taken the shackles off of you and said "now you're free, go for yourself." Why should you still lay there to his gate, "ohhh...give me.." Give you nothing!
That's the truth! What's he going to give you now, after he let you go free to get it for yourself. You don't need to blame him, now. Blame yourself! The earth is large! And that there is enough of it for you to have some and for them to have some. If God wants to continue to help them to live on this earth, you get that part that He gives you. And don't be worried over his.
Take that which God gives you, and that only. Go to war with no man for that of his own. No...You don't fight nobody over what is theirs. Just get yours and keep yours. And let himkeep his. If God gives it to him, that's him and God. "God, just give ME something". Now God has given me something. Let us do the best we can with what He has given to us. Take somebody's property? Take nothing!!! Just take that which God has given to you and make something out of it.
You take nothing! You go to war with no man! No! You go to war with yourself. Trying to rob people out of their own, that's wrong! The earth is too large.
"Well he's taken it from me". Well, you let him do it. I don't blame him, if you going to let me take it, well that's ok.
I say to you, my beloved brothers and sisters, Allah has Loosed us. All we have to do is go to work and try and make the best out of what He has given to us. And stop looking at other people's property...Looking for them to give you theirs. You don't take nothing. "Well, he's taken it from me and he's taken it from my brother". Well, if he's taken it from the Indian, let the Indian fight for his own. One thing I can bear witness with the white man, the Indian wasn't doing nothing with it.
And if he come here taking it away from them and built up a great country like this, I say he ought to have been here a long time before he did. Not that I said that that I hate the Indian, for their loss. No! I love the Indian. But he was not smart enough to keep his home. So he let a stranger take it. Well, we are strangers too. And we have got to have some of this earth that we can call our own. And regardless to who he is, we've got to have some of the earth. We've got to have a place to live that we can call our own. There are over 30 million of us running from one state to the other, just like wild animals. We've got to have a home.
And if the game is that take whatever you can find and make you a home, then me must get a home. Because nobody wants to give you their's. So we must find a home that we can call our own. I can't wear a crown with no country! To crown me, I've got to have some of this earth. A Man with a crown and have no country is like a ship out there at sea. It's a ship but it have no home, therefore it can't travel. We've got to have a home. If God come to bless us, He must bless us with the help of giving us some of this earth that we can call our own. If the Bible is true that the Lost was given a home. We thank Allah to bless us, and speedily bless us, with a home.
We can not, no more, go around making mock of each other. Cut it out. We are all brothers and sisters. We make mock of no one. Because, remember, that once upon a time you were mocked. And you deserved it. You didn't have nothing and you would not do nothing to get something.
So, I say, brothers and sisters, since the arrival of Allah, I do think that we should not sit still. We should arise and be like the Book says, "Arise and shine!" You are no more living in the dark. You are living in the light. So let us arise and shine forth...And go forth. Do something for self!
It's actually hurting to hear our people, and some of these leaders, over the air, begging the white man to give them something. Give you nothing! You can give yourself something, now!
...You have freedom to go for yourself. You don't need nothing else. Since you claims the earth, And he's living on it, And it belongs to you, and you are not intelligent and smart enough to dig out of your earth that which he dug out of it, right under your feet. So don't blame him for digging out that which you were not digging out. Be straight, fair and plain. Look at self before ever you start charging others, of your own faults.
I don't say this to say that the white people did not treat us as they should. No, they did not treat us as the should. And if they had treated us as they should, that would have been Freedom, Justice and Equality. And that, nature didn't put in him. He gives you what nature gives him. So now don't blame him for that which by nature you put in him. Blame yourself for putting it in him.
I want us to remember that Allah has established Himself among you and me. And give you a Flag representing your freedom. And that you are justified to be free. Now, if He has given to you a flag, and that you are justified in having that flag to lift up to the people of earth, let us show the people of earth we can do something for self. We've got the greatest flag ever been raised by any man!
We must remember that the fault is not on the slave master anymore, since he said you can go free. And we see, today, he is not hindering us. It's we hindering ourselves. Give justice to whom it's due. We glorify in making fun and charging the slavemaster with keeping us a slave. He can't hold you no slave now. You're holding yourself a slave.
I say to you, my beloved brothers and sisters, give justice to where it belongs. And don't try and rob people out of justice. If the whiteman, and he has, freed you and me to go to work for self.. and you go all around the earth. He don't object...you can go wherever you want to, then he's not to blame, today. You are the one to be blamed. This is a very sly and discreet(?) way that we have of dumping the burden on someone else. Right is right. And we are of the Nation of Righteousness. Take our place among the righteous, doing righteous.
I love you! ...And I love you to do something for self. And to stop putting your faults on the slavemaster. If you say, "well he won't let me do so and so and so." The earth is big! Go somewhere where you can do something for yourself without being hindered. Regardless to him trailing us to make it hard for us. The Indian and the buffalo trailed him, But that didn't stop him from opening up a great country that you and I are sitting here in today, glorifying our freedom. The Indian was not doing anything with the country but hunting and fishing.
What I'm trying to say to you, we can not put all the fault on the white man. No, he don't deserve us charging him with all the fault...Because you are free. And to make it clear to you, Allah came and give to you and me a flag representing Freedom, Justice and Equality.
We hoist that flag right here on his soil. He didn't say take it down. No. He did not hinder you from hoisting your own flag, right up beside his. So we must get up and do something for self. Seeing that nobody's hindering us from doing for self. We must go and do for self. And stop charging the old slave master with being our hindering cause. He's not. It's ourselves. Ourselves.
Now, Since you have known self, And now know your once slavemasters, and he's not trying to hinder you from being yourself, I say, Be Yourself!
We all love to be equal with other people who are equal. Well, then, do something to make them to accept us as their equal. We can't sit off over here on the curbstone and tell him to come sit down with us. No.
We are a lazy people...who want something for nothing. That's the way we are. We are lazy. We cannot take a country like this and build up cities from one end of it to the other, like the white man has done. "Well, we helped him." Well, that was your fault! Certainly he was going to use you, if you did not use yourself.
"He takes our woman..." you say, "...and make a dog out of her". You are not trying to make nothing out of her yourself! Take her and make them to know and see that you are intelligent enough, and love your woman enough to try and make something out of her, after she ignorantly have fallen to you, now make her to fall to you and make something out of her.
We are making an example of her. There they are!
We go back to the destroyer and ask him to restore that or fix up that which he has destroyed. He's a destroyer. Take your own and restore her back in her place. Keep her in her place. Don't let him see her running around savage at night. He didn't tell you to send your woman out there on the street. You did it, yourself. You should have kept her at home where she belongs.
And if you don't keep her in your home, naturally, she's acting like a wild beast out here, where she's subjected to anybody. Get your woman off the street, out of the public eye. And then the public will respect you. Nowhere will you go and find women with so much freedom as you find in America. They are free to ramble all night long, come home whenever they please, and you are out there looking for them. Helping them. We can not be respected with no such house. We've got to clean out our house. And make our people more self-respecting. Then others will respect them and they will respect you.
If you were up here where I am, you look very beautiful out there!
So I say to you that you cannot put on a white dress or a black dress and expect people to respect the dress.
I'm about, now, to discontinue our subject here this afternoon, but I want you to remember that if you put on a white dress, clean and spotless, and then IN that dress is unclean, you can not be respected like that.
We cannot go out and tell the public, "I'm a Muslim" unless you practice the principles of it. You have got to respect and practice the principles of Islam. I have visited the Muslim world. I have made pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina, and I have seen and I have heard. These people don't believe in foolishness. So I'm trying to clothe you, not only with the garments of salvation, but clothe you with the principles of our religion.
These men are not here to look at you just trying to be Muslim. They are here wanting to know whether or not that you are a Muslim at heart.
So my beloved brothers and sisters, I am going to discontinue this moral teachings that I have been doing here for you for the last couple of hours. And we are going home. And the Laborers will finish off that which they know that they will have to do. And I say to you, I am greatly happy!
This book (Our Saviour Has Arrived) is being given to you, this afternoon. Don't buy it. In fact, everything we have here on this desk to offer to you is free!
...And I say to you, in the Name of Allah, As-Salaam Alaikum!
In the Name of Allah, The Most Merciful, To Whom All Holy Praises is due, The Lord of the Worlds. I'm so happy to see your smiling faces out here. Now you're talking about a little man, feeling like he's a big man, that's me! Lot's of people call me a little man. I wish they'd come and see how big I am now.
All Praises is due to Allah, Who have made it possible for us to meet here this day to give honor, thanks for His coming and for His blessing. He has now come in our midst. He's with us. We don't see Him as a spook. He's no spook. He's a live man! He's a Living God!
I'm sorry that I have not asked you to sit down. You look so beautiful and I don't want you to sit down.
Brothers and Sisters, when you were Christian Believers, you used to sing that when you get to heaven, you was not gonna sit down. Well we have a great job here to do today. And I am going to say to you I thank you for receiving me with such great honor. And that you may now be seated.
...I'm going to turn the meeting over to the secretary. He has lots to tell you. And so he's going to address you and get busy and tell you what we must do - what must , now, be done after the Coming of God. I turn you over to the secretary, as I say unto you in the Name of Allah, As-Salaam-Alaikum...Just a moment. I looked at myself a little coming in by a mirror and my grandson here, he was telling me, so I hope you don't chop my head off for this mighty crown I have on...
(National Secretary speaks)
....My Beloved Brothers and Sisters, we have today a very beautiful day from Allah. To you that is visiting us, that we know and that we don't know... Some of you, we don't know you...You may make yourself known to us so you can receive your honor from us for visiting us today. We are a people that does not think that we are Big I's. We think that we are little you's...And not Big I's. We are so greatly blessed by Allah and by you visiting us that we cannot help but to be happy and proud of your presence. There may be some of you that is some great dignitary that we don't know. You are welcomed to make yourself known to us that we may be able to give you credit for what you are.
And that we want to say to you that is visiting us that probably comes from overseas...We want you to know that you are at the setting of the sun. But that sun is rising again. It's set. But she is rising again. Bringing us in a new day. The Coming of God. The Coming of Our Saviour. He's not a Spook. I want you to know that we are trying our best, since we have met face to face with God to try to remove from you that old idea that God is some Spirit that is formless. We want you to get out of that old slavery idea.
If you call God by a pronoun, "He"...you feel pretty cheap calling Him "she". You feel pretty cheap just to say "spirit"...You've got to say "He"!
I'm here to tell you that He's not a "she" nor is He some formless spirit. The Bible says on the Day of Judgment you will see God as He is. This is the Day. And I can GLADLY say that He is a He!
There is a many people who have not known God. And there is a many people that know God.
The white race knows God. But they can't represent God as you and me do. They will be giving away the power to rule. They was not to rule under the Teachings of reality of God. They was made to hide to reality of God...in order that they themselves would be worshipped.
I don't get angry with them the way that they rule and what they teach. How in the world can they teach and turn us away from the God of Reality...if they intend to rule they have got to take us away...because we've got the reality. Every time you look at the Black man, you're looking at God!
Maybe some of us will say, "Oh no! I'm no God and you're no God". Okay, get your God out and show Him to me. You can't do that. You say that God is a Spirit...Show Him to me. You can not show me your spirit God. Then you say, He's not to be seen. Well then, I don't want to see Him if he don't want to see me.
...As it is written, we worship that which we know, what. You worship that which you know not! We are not going to hold your attention to this kind of subject. We've got lots of work here to do. For 43 years, I have been teaching that GOD IS MAN! For 43 years I have been teaching that one day you will wake up to know. You will wake up and agree with me. From the looks of your numbers here today, it SEEMS that you're waking up.
There is no intelligent man will come out of the college or out of the university with his degrees in his hand and in his pocket and will agree to you that he learned that he had to worship Spooks. Because he went to colleges and universities of the land to learn the truth of who is who. He didn't go there to make a fool out of himself.
The professors and scholars over at the colleges and universities would look at you and laugh at you to tell them to go and worship something they don't know nothing about. And I don't blame them.
We are very happy. We have with us two or three great scientists over to my right here. They are great scientists visiting us.
If we had been here worshiping the space, the atmosphere, for God, they would not have taken a seat over there. So we are happy and honored to have these great scientists sitting over here to our right. We are happy to be honored by them. We are glad that they are visiting us to know that sun, the Spiritual sun, is vice-versing itself, rising from the West!
I'm not saying that I'm trying to make them look small for coming here visiting us. As we are small. We are those Lost and now Found people that the Bible's been teaching us all our lives. We are those people. God have come to raise us up to give to us a Kingdom. And the Bible says, it is His own Good Will to do so. He takest the Kingdom from whom He pleases and give it to whom He pleases. So we had no Kingdom, but He's, now, giving to us a Kingdom. This represents a Kingdom.
"Sit him down over there. Crown him. Put him on good shoes. (The Messenger laughs) Get up Brother! And recognize your Brother that was Lost and is now Found. Get up! Give Him a place at home! Come on in Brother!" Praise Be To Allah!
"He was Lost. Now he's found. He was dead, but now he's Alive. Come on in, Brother. Have a seat ,Brother. Put him on a crown....This is it!
Since the Coming of God, in the Person of Master Fard Muhammad, and teaching you and me that He had searched the earth, as it is written. Now He have found us. Now what must be done? We can not sit down. We cannot lay down. We must get up...and go to work. Praises be to Allah!
We want to thank the Chicago white people for making it possible for us to obtain the Country Club. For making it possible for us to get in such position where we can prove ourselves worthy of the position. We thank them. They have did us a great favor. I don't think that we have nothing to do but to honor and thank them for putting us in such position.
This is their house and we are here teaching the truth. They are not objecting to you teaching the truth. As we have white Muslims in America...And lots of them. We have them all over the world. And they recognize and respect you. You must recognize and respect them.
You don't disrespect people that is trying to respect you. I remember the last time that I was out to the airport. They let me and my followers get on first. Now remember their flag is still flying over America. Honor and respect the man. Because he still has his flag.
There is much that can be interchanged between them and us in that way of respect. We don't have to get up to try to make fun of them just because you have learned yourself. And now you have learned them. Just remember that they show you respect after you have learned yourself. Show them respect them too! Because when you didn't know yourself, you didn't respect self nor anyone else.
We used to disgrace ourselves and them too. Because we didn't know ourself. But now we respect ourselves and we respect them. Praise be to Allah!
If you go out there disrespecting the owner of this land...they are the owners as long as they are in power...I think you will be showing disrespect for the high honor that has been conferred on you and me by God. You have to respect everybody. And everybody will respect you.
If God give way to them to rule, Then you're honoring a ruler. As long as they are in power to rule, then respect them. This I mean from my heart. Everywhere we go, respect people and people will respect you. Don't think that you are so great now, just because God promised you the Kingdom. Wait until you get in it!
And still you must remember that a ruler may dishonor. And dishonoring people he's dishonoring himself.
My beloved brothers and sisters, God has come and He visited us. He don't mean for us to waste our time looking to see who can we make mock of. Look and try and show people, that if you will mock, disrespect , that God did not raise us up to repeat the same. We must show the world that we are a Righteous people trying to set up the characteristics in our people of righteousness.
We don't want our people acting unrighteous. Regardless to who's acting unrighteous by us, we must not do so ourselves, since we represent ourselves as being righteous people. We be righteous.
If we say there goes the devil. Then don't try and practice after him if you say your are righteous. Show the devil that you are a righteous person. Because he's watching you for such. Since you say, now, you are righteous, then prove it. And if you say he's not righteous, he will say, he was not his Maker. That'll stop YOUR mouth.
He did not make himself. It was our kind that made him. So if you want to make mock of that which you have made, he could easily tell you that "I am not responsible for my make, you made me, yourself...your kind."
Let us remember these words. There is lots that we must learn to do, to show forth to the world who we are. We are not raised up to sit around and make mock of people. No! We are raised up to show the world what righteousness looks like. And how it feels to be righteous. Clearing a man of his past and putting him on the right road, This is a wonderful thing!
He said to Israel, "I am your God!" Israel said, "I bear witness". (The Messenger laughs)
Now, He says to you and I, "Remember my favor that I've bestowed upon you. Take a Lesson from Me, that if I bestowed upon Israel those great blessings, what you think I'm gonna do for you? If I blessed Israel to bring her out of the bondage of Pharoah, what you think I'm gonna do for you? I found Israel in the worst house of the wilderness, and I found you in the worst house...and you are my own."
So if God said this, and He have said it, that we belong to Him...All Praise is due to Allah!
He called Israel his son. He said, "Out of Egypt, I have called my son...I have said to Israel, that if they obey me, I will lead them in a land that I will give to them, on the condition that they believe, and obey." But they didn't obey. So, His promise can't be fulfilled, because, that "...you don't give me a chance. I want to fulfill my promise, Israel...but you won't let me fulfill it. Who brought you in this place, Israel? Who fed you, Israel, where there was no bread? I only want to show to you, Israel, that I am God."
So, the same thing, Brothers and Sisters have come to us. I want to show you, O my Lost and Found, that He that found you and me, is God! He owns us! And He wants to do for you that which will stand forever. The earth belongs to you. It didn't belong to Israel. But, now, you're the true owners. Think over that. Israel paved the way for you. Come on. I want to give it back to you.
The Lost and Found..Been lost from his Brothers for a long time. Now, he's found. And we must bring him, again, sit him down in the midst of his brother and tell him, "This is your home." So today, you are on your way to become the Owner and the Ruler of the earth.
Once you lay hold to that handle that will not break off, you must keep it. You don't have to worry about the people coming to you, they all will come to you. As the Bible teaches you, "Look and see, they all come to Thee".
You are a very beautiful people that have been robbed and spoiled. But as you come into Islam, Allah will gradually restore your beauty appearance. You will become a beautiful Nation as never before lived on the earth. If you don't like any ugly part about you, He says He will cause you to grow into a new growth.
"What must be done? " We have God with us! We have Him as our Guide. We don't have to stand around here and ask the question, "What must be done?" Get up and let's go and do something!
We are trying to do something with whatever the white folks will let us have. We are trying to do something with it to make them feel that they didn't give it over to a bunch of lazy fellows that want to sit down and turn our face back to them, begging them to carry us right on.
When you have been given a chance to go for self, GO FOR SELF!
I say that the Black man of North America have nobody to blame but himself. If he respects himself and do for himself, his once slave-master will come and respect him and help him to do something for self.
You can not say they don't help you to do something for self. They are helping US to go for OURselves. Who would want to help an old horse that don't want to do anything but lay down in the loft. ...Really disgusting. Rouse him up and tell him, "Hey, get up! If you can't pull the tractor, pull the plow."
I don't believe in us, now in this modern time, laying down on the white man, looking for him to give us something to go for. He gave you something when he gave you freedom. That's all you wanted. To be free to do something for self. Well, you've got that. Don't, now, lay down around his doorstep, asking him to help you. Go help yourself. Well, that's right. He's taken the shackles off of you and said "now you're free, go for yourself." Why should you still lay there to his gate, "ohhh...give me.." Give you nothing!
That's the truth! What's he going to give you now, after he let you go free to get it for yourself. You don't need to blame him, now. Blame yourself! The earth is large! And that there is enough of it for you to have some and for them to have some. If God wants to continue to help them to live on this earth, you get that part that He gives you. And don't be worried over his.
Take that which God gives you, and that only. Go to war with no man for that of his own. No...You don't fight nobody over what is theirs. Just get yours and keep yours. And let himkeep his. If God gives it to him, that's him and God. "God, just give ME something". Now God has given me something. Let us do the best we can with what He has given to us. Take somebody's property? Take nothing!!! Just take that which God has given to you and make something out of it.
You take nothing! You go to war with no man! No! You go to war with yourself. Trying to rob people out of their own, that's wrong! The earth is too large.
"Well he's taken it from me". Well, you let him do it. I don't blame him, if you going to let me take it, well that's ok.
I say to you, my beloved brothers and sisters, Allah has Loosed us. All we have to do is go to work and try and make the best out of what He has given to us. And stop looking at other people's property...Looking for them to give you theirs. You don't take nothing. "Well, he's taken it from me and he's taken it from my brother". Well, if he's taken it from the Indian, let the Indian fight for his own. One thing I can bear witness with the white man, the Indian wasn't doing nothing with it.
And if he come here taking it away from them and built up a great country like this, I say he ought to have been here a long time before he did. Not that I said that that I hate the Indian, for their loss. No! I love the Indian. But he was not smart enough to keep his home. So he let a stranger take it. Well, we are strangers too. And we have got to have some of this earth that we can call our own. And regardless to who he is, we've got to have some of the earth. We've got to have a place to live that we can call our own. There are over 30 million of us running from one state to the other, just like wild animals. We've got to have a home.
And if the game is that take whatever you can find and make you a home, then me must get a home. Because nobody wants to give you their's. So we must find a home that we can call our own. I can't wear a crown with no country! To crown me, I've got to have some of this earth. A Man with a crown and have no country is like a ship out there at sea. It's a ship but it have no home, therefore it can't travel. We've got to have a home. If God come to bless us, He must bless us with the help of giving us some of this earth that we can call our own. If the Bible is true that the Lost was given a home. We thank Allah to bless us, and speedily bless us, with a home.
We can not, no more, go around making mock of each other. Cut it out. We are all brothers and sisters. We make mock of no one. Because, remember, that once upon a time you were mocked. And you deserved it. You didn't have nothing and you would not do nothing to get something.
So, I say, brothers and sisters, since the arrival of Allah, I do think that we should not sit still. We should arise and be like the Book says, "Arise and shine!" You are no more living in the dark. You are living in the light. So let us arise and shine forth...And go forth. Do something for self!
It's actually hurting to hear our people, and some of these leaders, over the air, begging the white man to give them something. Give you nothing! You can give yourself something, now!
...You have freedom to go for yourself. You don't need nothing else. Since you claims the earth, And he's living on it, And it belongs to you, and you are not intelligent and smart enough to dig out of your earth that which he dug out of it, right under your feet. So don't blame him for digging out that which you were not digging out. Be straight, fair and plain. Look at self before ever you start charging others, of your own faults.
I don't say this to say that the white people did not treat us as they should. No, they did not treat us as the should. And if they had treated us as they should, that would have been Freedom, Justice and Equality. And that, nature didn't put in him. He gives you what nature gives him. So now don't blame him for that which by nature you put in him. Blame yourself for putting it in him.
I want us to remember that Allah has established Himself among you and me. And give you a Flag representing your freedom. And that you are justified to be free. Now, if He has given to you a flag, and that you are justified in having that flag to lift up to the people of earth, let us show the people of earth we can do something for self. We've got the greatest flag ever been raised by any man!
We must remember that the fault is not on the slave master anymore, since he said you can go free. And we see, today, he is not hindering us. It's we hindering ourselves. Give justice to whom it's due. We glorify in making fun and charging the slavemaster with keeping us a slave. He can't hold you no slave now. You're holding yourself a slave.
I say to you, my beloved brothers and sisters, give justice to where it belongs. And don't try and rob people out of justice. If the whiteman, and he has, freed you and me to go to work for self.. and you go all around the earth. He don't object...you can go wherever you want to, then he's not to blame, today. You are the one to be blamed. This is a very sly and discreet(?) way that we have of dumping the burden on someone else. Right is right. And we are of the Nation of Righteousness. Take our place among the righteous, doing righteous.
I love you! ...And I love you to do something for self. And to stop putting your faults on the slavemaster. If you say, "well he won't let me do so and so and so." The earth is big! Go somewhere where you can do something for yourself without being hindered. Regardless to him trailing us to make it hard for us. The Indian and the buffalo trailed him, But that didn't stop him from opening up a great country that you and I are sitting here in today, glorifying our freedom. The Indian was not doing anything with the country but hunting and fishing.
What I'm trying to say to you, we can not put all the fault on the white man. No, he don't deserve us charging him with all the fault...Because you are free. And to make it clear to you, Allah came and give to you and me a flag representing Freedom, Justice and Equality.
We hoist that flag right here on his soil. He didn't say take it down. No. He did not hinder you from hoisting your own flag, right up beside his. So we must get up and do something for self. Seeing that nobody's hindering us from doing for self. We must go and do for self. And stop charging the old slave master with being our hindering cause. He's not. It's ourselves. Ourselves.
Now, Since you have known self, And now know your once slavemasters, and he's not trying to hinder you from being yourself, I say, Be Yourself!
We all love to be equal with other people who are equal. Well, then, do something to make them to accept us as their equal. We can't sit off over here on the curbstone and tell him to come sit down with us. No.
We are a lazy people...who want something for nothing. That's the way we are. We are lazy. We cannot take a country like this and build up cities from one end of it to the other, like the white man has done. "Well, we helped him." Well, that was your fault! Certainly he was going to use you, if you did not use yourself.
"He takes our woman..." you say, "...and make a dog out of her". You are not trying to make nothing out of her yourself! Take her and make them to know and see that you are intelligent enough, and love your woman enough to try and make something out of her, after she ignorantly have fallen to you, now make her to fall to you and make something out of her.
We are making an example of her. There they are!
We go back to the destroyer and ask him to restore that or fix up that which he has destroyed. He's a destroyer. Take your own and restore her back in her place. Keep her in her place. Don't let him see her running around savage at night. He didn't tell you to send your woman out there on the street. You did it, yourself. You should have kept her at home where she belongs.
And if you don't keep her in your home, naturally, she's acting like a wild beast out here, where she's subjected to anybody. Get your woman off the street, out of the public eye. And then the public will respect you. Nowhere will you go and find women with so much freedom as you find in America. They are free to ramble all night long, come home whenever they please, and you are out there looking for them. Helping them. We can not be respected with no such house. We've got to clean out our house. And make our people more self-respecting. Then others will respect them and they will respect you.
If you were up here where I am, you look very beautiful out there!
So I say to you that you cannot put on a white dress or a black dress and expect people to respect the dress.
I'm about, now, to discontinue our subject here this afternoon, but I want you to remember that if you put on a white dress, clean and spotless, and then IN that dress is unclean, you can not be respected like that.
We cannot go out and tell the public, "I'm a Muslim" unless you practice the principles of it. You have got to respect and practice the principles of Islam. I have visited the Muslim world. I have made pilgrimage to Mecca and Medina, and I have seen and I have heard. These people don't believe in foolishness. So I'm trying to clothe you, not only with the garments of salvation, but clothe you with the principles of our religion.
These men are not here to look at you just trying to be Muslim. They are here wanting to know whether or not that you are a Muslim at heart.
So my beloved brothers and sisters, I am going to discontinue this moral teachings that I have been doing here for you for the last couple of hours. And we are going home. And the Laborers will finish off that which they know that they will have to do. And I say to you, I am greatly happy!
This book (Our Saviour Has Arrived) is being given to you, this afternoon. Don't buy it. In fact, everything we have here on this desk to offer to you is free!
...And I say to you, in the Name of Allah, As-Salaam Alaikum!
Thursday, October 09, 2008
"I am GOD"
"Do not think that saying 'I am God' is proclaiming one's greatness. It is actually total humility. Some one who say's 'I am the servant of God' infers two - God and himself - whereas someone who says, 'I am God' negates himself. He relinquises his own existence. 'I am God' means 'I don't exist. Everything is God. Only God exists. I am nothing. I am utter emptiness.' This is complete humility not arrogance, but people often misunderstand. When someone says he is God's servant, he still sees himself as a doer, albeit in God's service. He is not yet drowned in the ocean of God. When he is, there will be no such thing as 'his actions' , only movements in the water."
Jalaluddin Rumi
Accept Your Own, and Be Yourself!
RM
Jalaluddin Rumi
Accept Your Own, and Be Yourself!
RM
Tuesday, October 07, 2008
Misconceptions about "Jihad" Addressed
In the Name of Allah, the Beneficent, the Merciful...the Best Knower.
Salaam (Peace) to all.
Below is a response to an article by one of our African Brothers who made some erroneous claims about the principle of "Jihad" in Islam. It is posted here for the benefit of all who wish to better understand Islam, and Muslims.
----------------------------------------------------------
Dear Brother, I must be frank and say from the outset that, the author of this post is either severely misinformed by propaganda, or is being grossly deceptive in his misrepresentation of the principle of "Jihad".
Below, again, is the list of the stated "8 Facets of Jihad". I will provide verses from the Holy Qur'an that dismiss these "facets" as nothing more than ill-conceived, and poorly reasoned propaganda.
That is not to say that there are not those who commit atrocities in the "name" of Jihad -- as there are extremists and deviators in every ideology, whether "religious" or "political" -- but it is to point out that none of what is stated below is supported, as presented, by the Holy Qur'an, which is the Supreme Law of Islam.
The 8 Facets of Jihad
1. Jihad of the sword: People either convert to Islam or are subdued by military force. This is what Uthman Dan Fodio did to the Hausas.
"...had thy Lord pleased, all who are in the earth would have believed altogether; as for thee, wilt thou force men to become believers? It is not for any person to believe save by the permission of God." -(10:99,100)
"O my people, see you if I have with me clear proof from my Lord, and He has granted me mercy from Himself and it has been made obscure to you. Can we compel you to (accept) it while you are averse to it?" (11:28)
"And abuse not those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest, exceeding the limits, they abuse Allah through ignorance. Thus to every people have We made their deeds fair-seeming; then to their Lord is their return so He will inform them of what they did." (6:108)
"There is no compulsion in religion — the right way is indeed clearly distinct from error. So whoever disbelieves in the devil and believes in Allah, he indeed lays hold on the firmest handle which shall never break. And Allah is Hearing, Knowing." (2:256)
2. Jihad of Taxation: Those who refuse to embrace Islam must pay a special tax called Al-Jizya. You get to live another day but under severe financial burden. I understand that in Saudi Arabia, non-Muslims are taxed at a higher rate than Muslims. This taxation will, over time it is hoped, get one to see the error of one's ways and then convert to Islam for the taxation to cease.
While it is true that a tax is cited (9:29) as being required of the opponents of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), the larger context must be taken into consideration. Those who chose to live in an established Muslim Community, while yet opposing the principles of Islam, or at least electing to not follow them, were required to contribute to the well-being of the community that they were benefitting from. Would YOU let someone come and live in YOUR home and contribute NOTHING?
3. Jihad of financial reward: It is not uncommon for a financial reward to be offered to Christians and Jews to convert to Islam. Free university education in Iraq for Jews or Christians who convert has been cited as an example of this practice.
"This is Allah’s guidance wherewith He guides whom He pleases of His servants. And if they had associated others (with Him), all that they did would have been vain. These are they to whom We gave the Book and authority and prophecy. Therefore if these disbelieve in it, We have indeed entrusted it to a people who are not disbelievers in it. These are they whom Allah guided, so follow their guidance. Say: I ask you not for any reward for it. It is naught but a Reminder to the nations." (6:88-90)
"And recite to them the story of Noah, when he said to his people: O my people, if my staying (here) and my reminding (you) by the messages of Allah is hard on you, on Allah do I rely; so decide upon your course of action and (gather) your associates. Then let not your course of action be dubious to you, so have it executed against me and give me no respite. But if you turn back, I ask for no reward from you. My reward is only with Allah, and I am commanded to be of those who submit." (10:71,72)
"...O my people, see you if I have with me clear proof from my Lord, and He has granted me mercy from Himself and it has been made obscure to you. Can we compel you to (accept) it while you are averse to it? And, O my people, I ask you not for wealth (in return) for it. My reward is only with Allah, and I am not going to drive away those who believe. Surely they will meet their Lord, but I see you a people who are ignorant." (11:28,29)
Additional Verses:
11.051...
12.104...
25.057...
26.109...
26.127...
26.145...
26.164
26.180
34.047
36.021
38.086
42.023
4. Jihad of fear: Any Muslim who renounces Islam for another religion has an automatic death penalty imposed upon him. Fear is therefore a tool to keep people in Islamic religion. I postulate that many Hausas and other minority Tribes-people in the north have remained Muslims for this reason.
"They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter, and hindering (men) from Allah's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with Allah, and persecution is graver than slaughter; and they will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can; and whoever of you turns back from his religion, then he dies while an unbeliever-- these it is whose works shall go for nothing in this world and the hereafter, and they are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide." (2:217)
(Notice, no mention of "being killed" as a punishment...)
"There is no compulsion in religion — the right way is indeed clearly distinct from error. So whoever disbelieves in the devil and believes in Allah, he indeed lays hold on the firmest handle which shall never break. And Allah is Hearing, Knowing." (2:256)
"O you who believe, should anyone of you turn back from his religion, then Allah will bring a people, whom He loves and who love Him, humble towards the believers, mighty against the disbelievers, striving hard in Allah’s way and not fearing the censure of any censurer. This is Allah’s grace — He gives it to whom He pleases. And Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing." (5:54)
(Again, no mention of "being killed" for apostasy...)
"...and whoever turns back, then surely Allah is He Who is the Selfsufficient, the Praised." (57:24)
"And leave those who take their religion for a play and an idle sport, and whom this world’s life has deceived, and remind (men) hereby lest a soul be destroyed for what it has earned. It has besides Allah no friend nor intercessor, and though it offer every compensation, it will not be accepted from it. Those are they who are destroyed for what they earn. For them is a drink of boiling water and a painful chastisement, because they disbelieved." (6:70)
"And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the devils from among men and jinn, some of them inspiring others with gilded speech to deceive (them). And if thy Lord pleased, they would not do it, so leave them alone with what they forge —" (6:112)
5. Jihad of slavery: Slavery of non-believers is allowed as is witnessed in Sudan where Dinka tribe Christians and Animists are routinely kidnapped for slavery and ransom. I interpret this to mean that non-Muslims have no right to a decent life here on earth, let alone the hereafter.
"It is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards the East and the West, but righteousness is this that one should believe in Allah and the last day and the angels and the Book and the prophets, and give away wealth out of love for Him to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and the beggars and for (the emancipation of) the captives, and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate; and the performers of their promise when they make a promise, and the patient in distress and affliction and in time of conflicts-- these are they who are true (to themselves) and these are they who guard (against evil)." (2:177)
"We have certainly created man to face difficulties. Does he think that no one has power over him? He will say: I have wasted much wealth. Does he think that no one sees him? Have We not given him two eyes, And a tongue and two lips, And pointed out to him the two conspicuous ways? But he attempts not the uphill road; And what will make thee comprehend what the uphill road is? (It is) to free a slave, Or to feed in a day of hunger An orphan nearly related, Or the poor man lying in the dust." (90:4-16)
"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (2:62)
"Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve." (5:69)
"Thou wilt certainly find the most violent of people in enmity against the believers to be the Jews and the idolators; and thou wilt find the nearest in friendship to the believers to be those who say, We are Christians. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not proud. And when they hear that which has been revealed to the Messenger thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of the truth they recognize. They say: Our Lord, we believe, so write us down with the witnesses. And what (reason) have we that we should not believe in Allah and in the Truth that has come to us, while we earnestly desire that our Lord should cause us to enter with the righteous people? So Allah rewarded them for what they said, with Gardens wherein rivers flow to abide in them. And that is the reward of the doers of good." (5:82-85)
6. Jihad of the courts: The testimony of a non-Muslim does not carry equal weight as that of a Muslim in their court. No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel. It takes the testimony of two women to equal that of one man. Think about a rape case against a Muslim man, regardless of whether the accuser is or is not a Muslim woman. Is it any wonder that 98% of riots in Nigeria are in the Muslim parts of the country?
"O you who believe, be maintainers of justice, bearers of witness for Allah, even though it be against your own selves or (your) parents or near relatives — whether he be rich or poor, Allah has a better right over them both. So follow not (your) low desires, lest you deviate. And if you distort or turn away from (truth), surely Allah is ever Aware of what you do." (4:135)
"O you who believe, be upright for Allah, bearers of witness with justice; and let not hatred of a people incite you not to act equitably. Be just; that is nearer to observance of duty. And keep your duty to Allah. Surely Allah is Aware of what you do." (5:8)
"...and women have rights similar to those against them in a just manner, and the men are a degree above them, and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (2:228)
7. Jihad after death: A Muslim is to fight on the prophet's behalf in his lifetime and after death. There is no rest even in eternity.
There is no "Jihad" after death...
"And think not of those who are killed in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they are alive being provided sustenance from their Lord, Rejoicing in what Allah has given them out of His grace, and they rejoice for the sake of those who, (being left) behind them, have not yet joined them, that they have no fear, nor shall they grieve. They rejoice for Allah’s favour and (His) grace, and that Allah wastes not the reward of the believers." (3:169-171)
"...Allah desires ease for you, and He does not desire for you difficulty, and (He desires) that you should complete the number and that you should exalt the greatness of Allah for His having guided you and that you may give thanks." (2:185)
"...I will not waste the work of a worker among you, whether male or female, the one of you being from the other; they, therefore, who fled and were turned out of their homes and persecuted in My way and who fought and were slain, I will most certainly cover their evil deeds, and I will most certainly make them enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; a reward from Allah, and with Allah is yet better reward." (3:195)
"O soul that art at rest, Return to thy Lord, well-pleased, well-pleasing, So enter among My servants, And enter My Garden!" (89:27-30)
8. Jihad of paradise: Any Muslim killed in a Jihad goes directly to the sexual pleasures of Paradise. Surah 2 Al-Baqarah (verse 25) promises women in Paradise who do not menstruate, urinate or defecate.
2:25
YUSUFALI: But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever).
PICKTHAL: And give glad tidings (O Muhammad) unto those who believe and do good works; that theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow; as often as they are regaled with food of the fruit thereof, they say: this is what was given us aforetime; and it is given to them in resemblance. There for them are pure companions; there for ever they abide.
SHAKIR: And convey good news to those who believe and do good deeds, that they shall have gardens in which rivers flow; whenever they shall be given a portion of the fruit thereof, they shall say: This is what was given to us before; and they shall be given the like of it, and they shall have pure mates in them, and in them, they shall abide.
Interesting...no mention of "sex" or "orgies" in any of the above three translations...
We truly disgrace ourselves when we corrupt the truth to serve our agendas.
A word to the wise.
RM
Salaam (Peace) to all.
Below is a response to an article by one of our African Brothers who made some erroneous claims about the principle of "Jihad" in Islam. It is posted here for the benefit of all who wish to better understand Islam, and Muslims.
----------------------------------------------------------
Dear Brother, I must be frank and say from the outset that, the author of this post is either severely misinformed by propaganda, or is being grossly deceptive in his misrepresentation of the principle of "Jihad".
Below, again, is the list of the stated "8 Facets of Jihad". I will provide verses from the Holy Qur'an that dismiss these "facets" as nothing more than ill-conceived, and poorly reasoned propaganda.
That is not to say that there are not those who commit atrocities in the "name" of Jihad -- as there are extremists and deviators in every ideology, whether "religious" or "political" -- but it is to point out that none of what is stated below is supported, as presented, by the Holy Qur'an, which is the Supreme Law of Islam.
The 8 Facets of Jihad
1. Jihad of the sword: People either convert to Islam or are subdued by military force. This is what Uthman Dan Fodio did to the Hausas.
"...had thy Lord pleased, all who are in the earth would have believed altogether; as for thee, wilt thou force men to become believers? It is not for any person to believe save by the permission of God." -(10:99,100)
"O my people, see you if I have with me clear proof from my Lord, and He has granted me mercy from Himself and it has been made obscure to you. Can we compel you to (accept) it while you are averse to it?" (11:28)
"And abuse not those whom they call upon besides Allah, lest, exceeding the limits, they abuse Allah through ignorance. Thus to every people have We made their deeds fair-seeming; then to their Lord is their return so He will inform them of what they did." (6:108)
"There is no compulsion in religion — the right way is indeed clearly distinct from error. So whoever disbelieves in the devil and believes in Allah, he indeed lays hold on the firmest handle which shall never break. And Allah is Hearing, Knowing." (2:256)
2. Jihad of Taxation: Those who refuse to embrace Islam must pay a special tax called Al-Jizya. You get to live another day but under severe financial burden. I understand that in Saudi Arabia, non-Muslims are taxed at a higher rate than Muslims. This taxation will, over time it is hoped, get one to see the error of one's ways and then convert to Islam for the taxation to cease.
While it is true that a tax is cited (9:29) as being required of the opponents of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH), the larger context must be taken into consideration. Those who chose to live in an established Muslim Community, while yet opposing the principles of Islam, or at least electing to not follow them, were required to contribute to the well-being of the community that they were benefitting from. Would YOU let someone come and live in YOUR home and contribute NOTHING?
3. Jihad of financial reward: It is not uncommon for a financial reward to be offered to Christians and Jews to convert to Islam. Free university education in Iraq for Jews or Christians who convert has been cited as an example of this practice.
"This is Allah’s guidance wherewith He guides whom He pleases of His servants. And if they had associated others (with Him), all that they did would have been vain. These are they to whom We gave the Book and authority and prophecy. Therefore if these disbelieve in it, We have indeed entrusted it to a people who are not disbelievers in it. These are they whom Allah guided, so follow their guidance. Say: I ask you not for any reward for it. It is naught but a Reminder to the nations." (6:88-90)
"And recite to them the story of Noah, when he said to his people: O my people, if my staying (here) and my reminding (you) by the messages of Allah is hard on you, on Allah do I rely; so decide upon your course of action and (gather) your associates. Then let not your course of action be dubious to you, so have it executed against me and give me no respite. But if you turn back, I ask for no reward from you. My reward is only with Allah, and I am commanded to be of those who submit." (10:71,72)
"...O my people, see you if I have with me clear proof from my Lord, and He has granted me mercy from Himself and it has been made obscure to you. Can we compel you to (accept) it while you are averse to it? And, O my people, I ask you not for wealth (in return) for it. My reward is only with Allah, and I am not going to drive away those who believe. Surely they will meet their Lord, but I see you a people who are ignorant." (11:28,29)
Additional Verses:
11.051...
12.104...
25.057...
26.109...
26.127...
26.145...
26.164
26.180
34.047
36.021
38.086
42.023
4. Jihad of fear: Any Muslim who renounces Islam for another religion has an automatic death penalty imposed upon him. Fear is therefore a tool to keep people in Islamic religion. I postulate that many Hausas and other minority Tribes-people in the north have remained Muslims for this reason.
"They ask you concerning the sacred month about fighting in it. Say: Fighting in it is a grave matter, and hindering (men) from Allah's way and denying Him, and (hindering men from) the Sacred Mosque and turning its people out of it, are still graver with Allah, and persecution is graver than slaughter; and they will not cease fighting with you until they turn you back from your religion, if they can; and whoever of you turns back from his religion, then he dies while an unbeliever-- these it is whose works shall go for nothing in this world and the hereafter, and they are the inmates of the fire; therein they shall abide." (2:217)
(Notice, no mention of "being killed" as a punishment...)
"There is no compulsion in religion — the right way is indeed clearly distinct from error. So whoever disbelieves in the devil and believes in Allah, he indeed lays hold on the firmest handle which shall never break. And Allah is Hearing, Knowing." (2:256)
"O you who believe, should anyone of you turn back from his religion, then Allah will bring a people, whom He loves and who love Him, humble towards the believers, mighty against the disbelievers, striving hard in Allah’s way and not fearing the censure of any censurer. This is Allah’s grace — He gives it to whom He pleases. And Allah is Ample-giving, Knowing." (5:54)
(Again, no mention of "being killed" for apostasy...)
"...and whoever turns back, then surely Allah is He Who is the Selfsufficient, the Praised." (57:24)
"And leave those who take their religion for a play and an idle sport, and whom this world’s life has deceived, and remind (men) hereby lest a soul be destroyed for what it has earned. It has besides Allah no friend nor intercessor, and though it offer every compensation, it will not be accepted from it. Those are they who are destroyed for what they earn. For them is a drink of boiling water and a painful chastisement, because they disbelieved." (6:70)
"And thus did We make for every prophet an enemy, the devils from among men and jinn, some of them inspiring others with gilded speech to deceive (them). And if thy Lord pleased, they would not do it, so leave them alone with what they forge —" (6:112)
5. Jihad of slavery: Slavery of non-believers is allowed as is witnessed in Sudan where Dinka tribe Christians and Animists are routinely kidnapped for slavery and ransom. I interpret this to mean that non-Muslims have no right to a decent life here on earth, let alone the hereafter.
"It is not righteousness that you turn your faces towards the East and the West, but righteousness is this that one should believe in Allah and the last day and the angels and the Book and the prophets, and give away wealth out of love for Him to the near of kin and the orphans and the needy and the wayfarer and the beggars and for (the emancipation of) the captives, and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate; and the performers of their promise when they make a promise, and the patient in distress and affliction and in time of conflicts-- these are they who are true (to themselves) and these are they who guard (against evil)." (2:177)
"We have certainly created man to face difficulties. Does he think that no one has power over him? He will say: I have wasted much wealth. Does he think that no one sees him? Have We not given him two eyes, And a tongue and two lips, And pointed out to him the two conspicuous ways? But he attempts not the uphill road; And what will make thee comprehend what the uphill road is? (It is) to free a slave, Or to feed in a day of hunger An orphan nearly related, Or the poor man lying in the dust." (90:4-16)
"Those who believe (in the Qur'an), and those who follow the Jewish (scriptures), and the Christians and the Sabians,- any who believe in Allah and the Last Day, and work righteousness, shall have their reward with their Lord; on them shall be no fear, nor shall they grieve." (2:62)
"Surely those who believe and those who are Jews and the Sabians and the Christians whoever believes in Allah and the last day and does good-- they shall have no fear nor shall they grieve." (5:69)
"Thou wilt certainly find the most violent of people in enmity against the believers to be the Jews and the idolators; and thou wilt find the nearest in friendship to the believers to be those who say, We are Christians. That is because there are priests and monks among them and because they are not proud. And when they hear that which has been revealed to the Messenger thou seest their eyes overflow with tears because of the truth they recognize. They say: Our Lord, we believe, so write us down with the witnesses. And what (reason) have we that we should not believe in Allah and in the Truth that has come to us, while we earnestly desire that our Lord should cause us to enter with the righteous people? So Allah rewarded them for what they said, with Gardens wherein rivers flow to abide in them. And that is the reward of the doers of good." (5:82-85)
6. Jihad of the courts: The testimony of a non-Muslim does not carry equal weight as that of a Muslim in their court. No Muslim should be killed for killing an infidel. It takes the testimony of two women to equal that of one man. Think about a rape case against a Muslim man, regardless of whether the accuser is or is not a Muslim woman. Is it any wonder that 98% of riots in Nigeria are in the Muslim parts of the country?
"O you who believe, be maintainers of justice, bearers of witness for Allah, even though it be against your own selves or (your) parents or near relatives — whether he be rich or poor, Allah has a better right over them both. So follow not (your) low desires, lest you deviate. And if you distort or turn away from (truth), surely Allah is ever Aware of what you do." (4:135)
"O you who believe, be upright for Allah, bearers of witness with justice; and let not hatred of a people incite you not to act equitably. Be just; that is nearer to observance of duty. And keep your duty to Allah. Surely Allah is Aware of what you do." (5:8)
"...and women have rights similar to those against them in a just manner, and the men are a degree above them, and Allah is Mighty, Wise." (2:228)
7. Jihad after death: A Muslim is to fight on the prophet's behalf in his lifetime and after death. There is no rest even in eternity.
There is no "Jihad" after death...
"And think not of those who are killed in Allah’s way as dead. Nay, they are alive being provided sustenance from their Lord, Rejoicing in what Allah has given them out of His grace, and they rejoice for the sake of those who, (being left) behind them, have not yet joined them, that they have no fear, nor shall they grieve. They rejoice for Allah’s favour and (His) grace, and that Allah wastes not the reward of the believers." (3:169-171)
"...Allah desires ease for you, and He does not desire for you difficulty, and (He desires) that you should complete the number and that you should exalt the greatness of Allah for His having guided you and that you may give thanks." (2:185)
"...I will not waste the work of a worker among you, whether male or female, the one of you being from the other; they, therefore, who fled and were turned out of their homes and persecuted in My way and who fought and were slain, I will most certainly cover their evil deeds, and I will most certainly make them enter gardens beneath which rivers flow; a reward from Allah, and with Allah is yet better reward." (3:195)
"O soul that art at rest, Return to thy Lord, well-pleased, well-pleasing, So enter among My servants, And enter My Garden!" (89:27-30)
8. Jihad of paradise: Any Muslim killed in a Jihad goes directly to the sexual pleasures of Paradise. Surah 2 Al-Baqarah (verse 25) promises women in Paradise who do not menstruate, urinate or defecate.
2:25
YUSUFALI: But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow. Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is what we were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (for ever).
PICKTHAL: And give glad tidings (O Muhammad) unto those who believe and do good works; that theirs are Gardens underneath which rivers flow; as often as they are regaled with food of the fruit thereof, they say: this is what was given us aforetime; and it is given to them in resemblance. There for them are pure companions; there for ever they abide.
SHAKIR: And convey good news to those who believe and do good deeds, that they shall have gardens in which rivers flow; whenever they shall be given a portion of the fruit thereof, they shall say: This is what was given to us before; and they shall be given the like of it, and they shall have pure mates in them, and in them, they shall abide.
Interesting...no mention of "sex" or "orgies" in any of the above three translations...
We truly disgrace ourselves when we corrupt the truth to serve our agendas.
A word to the wise.
RM
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